Unwanted Fast Food

[Rexec]

I notice McDonalds have opened another outlet in Waterloo recently. Yet another American fast food chain trying to take over Huddersfield.

Surely given how unhealthy the food is, the council should never have allowed this to happen?

[despondent]

I notice McDonalds have opened another outlet in Waterloo recently. Yet another American fast food chain trying to take over Huddersfield.

Surely given how unhealthy the food is, the council should never have allowed this to happen?

If it boosts the Council revenue anything goes, no concience, no scruples.

[StephB]

I notice McDonalds have opened another outlet in Waterloo recently. Yet another American fast food chain trying to take over Huddersfield.

Surely given how unhealthy the food is, the council should never have allowed this to happen?

If it boosts the Council revenue anything goes, no concience, no scruples.

Not noted for defending KNC or it's planning dept, I have to point out that there is no planning law or precedent which would allow them to ban it! Come on lads, play fair, we quite rightly [and loudly!] blame them when they seem to be 'going off on one', but let's not kick them for NOT doing something which they COULDN'T do, even if they wished!
[Ouch! That hurt!!!]

[despondent]

Not noted for defending KNC or it's planning dept, I have to point out that there is no planning law or precedent which would allow them to ban it! Come on lads, play fair, we quite rightly [and loudly!] blame them when they seem to be 'going off on one', but let's not kick them for NOT doing something which they COULDN'T do, even if they wished!
[Ouch! That hurt!!!]

Suppose its only fair to have yet another fast food trough for the students.

[DaveC]

Not noted for defending KNC or it's planning dept, I have to point out that there is no planning law or precedent which would allow them to ban it! Come on lads, play fair, we quite rightly [and loudly!] blame them when they seem to be 'going off on one', but let's not kick them for NOT doing something which they COULDN'T do, even if they wished!
[Ouch! That hurt!!!]

Suppose its only fair to have yet another fast food trough for the students.

Students?! This is a drive through by M&S, a couple of miles away from the university on the main route to the M1. I'd be surprised if students make up any significant proportion of their custom.

[StephB]

DaveC:-

Students?! This is a drive through by M&S, a couple of miles away from the university on the main route to the M1. I'd be surprised if students make up any significant proportion of their custom.

I thought that this thread was about a BigMac outlet? Not that it makes any difference which 'brand' it is as the planning dept can or could do nothing about it anyway...

[DaveC]

Allow me to rephrase, a McDonalds drive through sharing a site with M&S.

In theory, the council can prevent hot food outlets from opening, but only where there are reasonable grounds for doing so. Unless there are significant local objections, concerns over anti-social behaviour or the premises are located in a conservation area, A3 consent is easy to obtain by filling out a few forms. There are certainly (and rightly) no powers to stop an outlet opening based on the brand!

A landlord can also refuse permission for a tenant to obtain A3 consent, but in reality there's no chance they would go to the efforts of doing this and reduce the pool of potential tenants!

In fact, some takeaway brands don't even need A3 to operate anyway! Subway and Greggs are the examples that spring to mind

[Dave50]

It's the lazy, fat, uneducated people who live off fast food who are responsible for the profiliration of fats food joints all over Huddersfield & if they want to eat themselves to death then it's up to them. They are obviosly not short of money because with a little thought & planning, cooking from fresh is a lot cheaper than buying takeaways.

[DaveC]

It's the lazy, fat, uneducated people who live off fast food who are responsible for the profiliration of fats food joints all over Huddersfield & if they want to eat themselves to de

ath then it's up to them. They are obviosly not short of money because with a little thought & planning, cooking from fresh is a lot cheaper than buying takeaways.

Good god, what a generalisation!

I'm sure there are people who "live off fast food", but I'm yet to meet one of them and I've worked in the industry for the majority of my adult life thus far! Clientelle varies slightly between different types of fast food outlet, but you see every possible type of person eating in all of them. Office and shop workers, workmen, students, blue collar workers, pensioners, travelling salesmen, school kids, junkies, literally every corner of society is represented in most fast food outlets. None of these people are there to "eat themselves to death".

Do you apply this same generalisation to your local sandwich shops, restaurants, pubs etc? Don't forget it's cheaper to make a sandwich at home, the huge amounts of sugar,fat and salt present in restaurant dishes and the money people could save by having a beer at home instead of paying for one in the pub!

People do not eat fast food because they aren't aware they could cook at home for less, it is a matter of convenience and personal taste. Yes, there is an element of laziness there, but if people are willing to pay for the convenience of having their food prepared for them, there and then, why not? Don't forget also that, while they may not be to your tastes, millions of people enjoy the taste of a Big Mac, Whopper or BMT, what's wrong with indulging yourself every now and then?

[despondent]

what's wrong with indulging yourself every now and then?

For many, 'every now and then' is interpreted as being the daily norm, if they totalled up the weekly spend on these prepared 'snacks' they would have a shock, although I used to enjoy the occasional Chinese meal the expendature against value for money was borderline, the same money would buy me a nice cut of beef, for example, that would suffice for a minimum of two full meals for two people, its not rocket science to cook your own food, people now are just too idle to do it. TV advertising works extremely well by pitching at the kids who in turn think this is normal for daily sustainance. Tale about swamping areas, look for example at Marsh and Aspley, no doubt many more districts too, completely over-run.

[DaveC]

For many, 'every now and then' is interpreted as being the daily norm, if they totalled up the weekly spend on these prepared 'snacks' they would have a shock,

If they can afford it, where's the problem? I don't think anyone is under the impression it is cheaper to eat out than cook at home.

its not rocket science to cook your own food, people now are just too idle to do it

In my experience, the majority buy lunch when out and about or at work during the day and then eat dinner at home. It is a generalisation I see banded about all too often at the moment, it is not a case of eating either fast food or cooking a meal at home, people do both when it is appropriate for them to do so.

Being idle isn't the correct term, as most are capable of cooking and do cook at home. Do you apply this term to anyone who eats at a work canteen also? What about those that spend their days on the road? Would you suggest all sales reps carry a camping stove in the boot of the car?

[despondent]

I hink we are drifting away from the General Public, to which I assumed the post referred, yes there are specific walks of life where there is little alternative, but a works canteen is quite a few rungs above the typical take-away, like you stated earlier one could choose to prepare sandwiches or a salad beforehand, I did this for the topside of 25 years even though the works canteen was subsidised and provided cheap, nutricious meals.